The Sept. 11 floor session in the Alaska House of Representatives was marked by an unusual moment when Rep. Sara Hannan (D-Juneau) stood to speak about the merits of the scientific method, and then proceeded to assert that Nazi experimentation during WWII yielded scientific results that now benefit society.
Her comments came just a few minutes after the House refused to vote on a proposal from Rep. David Eastman (R-Wasilla), in which he asked his colleagues to vote in support a statement that simply said: “It’s a Sense of the House that the Nuremberg Code adopted in 1947 following the prosecution of Nazi war crimes by the Allies after World War II remains just as valid today as when it was written in 1947.”
House Speaker Louise Stutes (R-Kodiak) immediately sidelined Eastman’s proposal by placing it in three committees, a procedural move routinely used to kill unwanted measures. The House voted 17-16 in support of Stutes decision.
A few minutes later, Rep. Sarah Vance (R-Homer) then rose and urged her colleagues to at least reflect on the contemporary value of the Nuremberg Code, especially its condemnation of experimental medical procedures that are forced upon unwilling subjects.
Vance proceeded to summarize the 10 points of the Nuremberg Code, including the statement that human subjects must always voluntarily consent to scientific experiments. She then raised concern about the increasing national push to mandate COVID vaccines, which she noted are “still in the experimental stage.”
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“The Nuremberg Code says that we shouldn’t be forcing people to use experimental drugs against their will,” Vance emphasized. “Alaskans and Americans still have a right to informed consent. May we never forget the rights of the individual to determine what they see fit. They have a right.”
This is when Hannan rose and began a meandering monologue about the merits of the scientific method.
“If we go back to the Nuremberg Code and look at some of the experiments conducted by the Nazis and know that there were violations of human dignity, of scientific methodology, yet they produced results,” Hannan claimed.
She then mentioned the late Dr. William Mills.
“A very famous Alaskan doctor – Dr. Mills – who was an expert – word-renown – on frostbite and survival, frequently told that he came to that research as a young doctor [by] looking at science that was conducted on humans, and knowing that it was done in these horrific conditions, yet knowing that it could still benefit us to look at the results of that,” Hannan said. “And he became this renowned expert on frostbite, knowing that the science was developed by the Nazis – was horrifically done on people who were not voluntary scientific experiments, subjected to conditions where they were placed – where body parts were freezed and they were broken off”
Hannan then appeared to attack Vance’s claim that COVID shots are still considered experimental.
“But when we call something an experiment, without knowing the science behind it, it’s just political rhetoric,” she said. “Science is conducted in controlled environments, and right now in the 21st century, the scientific developments that are happening are sort of beyond the ability of some of us old folks to even recognize – how quickly we can get results and change and adapt. And as we’ve lived through this pandemic for the last year and a half – approaching two years – we know the science is directing changes and outcomes all the time.”
Hannan ended her speech by lecturing her fellow lawmakers to “understand the scientific method behind things before you question whether it was science or an experiment.”
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Here are the very simple facts about these experimental vaccines. Not a single one available in the US is FDA approved. The phizer drug was approved UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME. That drug is Not available anywhere in the US at this time. Cormidity (SIC) was approved by the FDA – NOT the current phizer vaccine here in the US. Why does it matter? Liability for the drug company and FDA when the vaccine is approved – None available under the experimental vaccines because all involved parties were granted immunity from prosecution for the side effects and deaths.
Covid isn’t going anywhere and with the government relying upon vaccines that the virus will soon become immune to due to over-vaccinations. It is rumored now that the “Lambda” variant is already vaccine resistant.
Therapeutics are the answer. Natural Immunity is up to 13x’s better protection to reinfection than the most effective of the vaccines – phizer.
Why are We The People sitting back and allowing the government to flagrantly lie to us and refuse to accept science – while violating laws that go back decades against forced experimentations on humans?
Some good points, but just because the FDA has “approved” a drug doesn’t really mean much. When the FDA “licenses” a drug is the final step. When a drug is licensed, the we can sue for any damages caused.
Michael, if only that were true. Vaccine manufacturers have been exempt from civil suits since 1988. There is a program called the VICP (Vaccine Injury Compensation Program) which is basically a tribunal comprised of (mostly) unelected former employees of big pharma who determine if your injuries merit financial compensation. A dirty little secret rarely discussed in the news.
NAZI is as NAZI does.
The military tribunals chilled that sort of accepting thinking. Those participating in gruesome horrific science crimes against humanity whose defense was “I was just following orders” were immediately shot.
This applied to doctors, nurses, media and any who complied when the Nuremberg Code was established. I recently heard Guantanamo Bay is currently being expanded…
Yes. The ends do not justify the means.
Let the experiments begin with Rep. Hannan. With all due respect for Dr. Mills after what he did to my father in 1967 it is in my opinion and my opinion alone I wouldn’t have taken my dog to that man.
These people need a good old fashion NAZI trial by fire
What repugnant reasoning. Fetal cells taken from abortions were used to make some if not all the vaccines, turns my stomach.
the Pfizer and Moderna vax use the abortion derived stem cells lines (H293) for testing. The J&J vax uses it for both testing and manufacturing. All are tainted by a voluntary abortion in the Netherlands done in the early 1970’s and are repugnant to those of us who believe human life begins at the moment of conception (which is the real science).
Wow! She need to go!
How are these maniacs even allowed on council?
Nazi reference was callous, divisive and off the charts, but her point about the scientific method is spot on.
“understand the scientific method behind things before you question whether it was science or an experiment.”
That’s her point right there. Singh do you have any idea what you are talking about?
“whether it was science or an experiment.” It was both, stupid! They were conducting experiments to see what would happen if/when, etc. That is science…forming an hypothesis and “experimenting” different things to see what happens, and recording it.
We should always call a Spade a Spade. If you don’t like being called a criminal, don’t do the crime.
Two words for you: “Civil Rights”.
Sara Hannah is co-chair of the committee sitting on HB175. Heaven help us. Write to her and Rep. Calvin Shrage to advance this bill, which would prevent vaccine mandates in Alaska!
“understand the scientific method behind things before you question whether it was science or an experiment.”
I’m a scientist. This statement takes my breath away.
Please tell us more of how it takes your breath away.
People will be lovers of themselves in the end days. They will call evil good, and good evil.
We are living in the end days. No generation before has ever had everything prophesied about how the generations will live all lining up before the ‘church (the real one’ is ‘caught up’
Today is Sunday and eventhough the churches should meet on Saturday cause its the real Sabbath by my understanding what has been told me about Sunday becoming the Sabbath by the Pope during past one generstion. I hope everyone has a church to attend despite our corporate church family’s imperfections cause it’s doing what we are commanded fellowshipping with other believers hearing the Word together.
When you have to force people to do something with their bodies. It’s proven not to work on everyone. Still has the ability to make you sick. Sounds to me that it’s not working. Go Play back in the lab. You made it. You fix it before experimenting on us.
I have never expected, when I arrived to the United States on February 1 of 1978, as a political refugee from a socialist country, that our country (USA) will attempt to destroy itself from within, with this ideological madness and neo-Marxist ideology. I certainly did not expect that our State of Alaska Representative (former history teacher in Juneau) will have a brain to state on the House floor that Nazi’s experiments on Jews during the war somehow benefited science (i.e. humanity—my word and interpretation). My grandfather Roman Umansky was brutally killed by Nazi in 1941 in Kiev (I never met my grandfather and many of my uncles and aunts), nearly twenty-five percent of my family were executed by Nazi’s experiments, and 6 million Jews (fifty percent of Jewish nation) were executed by Nazi in 6 years of the war. How a former history teacher could say something like this? I am absolutely lost.
I am so sorry for what happened to members of your family. It also happened to my first stepmother’s family. I can’t even fathom how much this must continue to affect the survivors and families, but we must all pray for them and make sure this never happen again!
This is not a question of scientific method vs. experiment. This is a question of consent. No person should be forced into any medical procedure.
Here is my private correspondence with my friend regarding Sara Hannan’s statement on the House floor:
“Not at all surprising, given that she is a Democrat politician. Same goes on at the national level with Jewish leaders and the Democrats. So, you need to ask yourself, what is the basis for the [continuing] alliance of the Jews with the Democrats. Is it just a historic thing? Or is there something continuing? And what was the historic connection to begin with? Maybe you already know the answer to that one; I don’t. But the Democrats, especially the far-left side, are not only turning their backs on the Jews today (both American and Israel), but are actively accusing them of being racists and intolerant of Palestinians and Arabs. The left is overtly active in trying to cut all American aid and support of Israel and shift it to the Palestinians instead. Even “centrist” Democrats are embracing Islam and are silent on the anti-Jew/Israel demands from the left. If I were a Jew, I’d certainly wonder about what’s going on and why; and I’d certainly question my being a Democrat if that’s what I was.”
I am glad to know that Sara Hannan is a history teacher because her comment on Scientific method is so lacking in understanding , it is truly breathtaking. Her twisted understanding of ethics which we use to keep science from becoming what the Nazi experiments were is what keeps us from repeating the horrible events of that time. Her ability to justify what happened to the world under the eugenics policies of the Nazis is truly astounding. All we can hope is that her attitude is isolated to herself and not finding support with other representatives. Please, all you representatives, take a stand on recognizing that we cannot forget what the Nuremburg trials taught us and the policies put in place are as valid today as they were then.
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that authorizes the FDA to grant emergency use authorization also requires the secretary of Health and Human Services to “ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed … of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product.” 21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 – Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies
If this soundbite isn’t used by anyone running against any DEM in the state, you’re missing a goodie.
I believe she and Stutes, Edgmon and Fields need to be removed. Voters you know what to do. Statutory PFD. These guys can’t even follow the laws.
Here are the 17 that voted to support Rep Stutes:
Drummond, Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Hannan, Hopkins, Josephson, Kreiss-Tomkins, Merrick, Ortiz, Schrage, Snyder, Spohnholz, Stutes, Tarr, Tuck, Zulkosky.
Why is it always a fat ugly feminist who becomes the communist in this country. Oh i know,, because nobody wants to date your sorry ass
Cringe. I cringe at the thought that Hannon believes the words coming out of her mouth. It’s like witnessing a mind control victim speak objectively about some fantasy.
Why is this shit not experimental? Science, that’s why
*Shot.
At min 45:43ish of her scientistic-isms, watch the cat in the background and how he WHIPS his head up as if to say “Oh, no she didn’t!” then, sadly, he remembered where he was … and took a sip of his gin.
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